Monday, December 18, 2006

 

We Distort, You Decide

I have previously reported that on many Indymedia sites, the only material of any quality whatsoever, has simply been copied (usually with no permisssion) from other news sites. In many cases it is of no local significance either, so the Global Indymedia Network effectively becomes a giant echo chamber.

In other words - Indymedia adds no significant value.

It gets worse however, when an article is copied but subtle alterations are introduced to support the reposter's political views. Sometimes, it's just too easy to spot.

One such example currently sits on NYC Indymedia.

The NYPD shot and killed a young man a couple of days ago. Someone at IMC changed a few words from the NYT article and posted a distorted version on the site. One of the key paragraphs are as follows:

From the original Times story:
"Mr. Person was with three friends Wednesday night when the group caught the attention of four uniformed police officers, who were in a marked car and on the lookout for graffiti vandals, Mr. Kelly said. When the officers approached, the men scattered, running, and the officers followed Mr. Person into the building’s vestibule, where the skirmish then broke out, Mr. Kelly said. "
From the IMC post:
"Mr. Person was with three friends Wednesday night when the group caught the attention of four uniformed police officers, who were in a marked car roving around unsupervised, Mr. Kelly said. When the officers approached, the men left the scene out of concern for their safety, running, and the officers chased Mr. Person into the building’s vestibule."
Making up quotes, inventing facts and plagiarising sources. Nice, but you're busted.

Thanks to L for the heads-up.

Comments:
Distorting mainstream media (MM) reports to fit the IM view of the world is not uncommon and as such many reports have to be viewed with suspicion.
Another example is the technique used by some posters to try and pretend the MM are all in a massive agreement to hide "facts" from the wider world.

https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/12/358480.html?c=all

Here is a post where the person has taken a widely known fact and attemmpted to pervert the reality to fit the theory. Links are then made to fruitcake websites to try and establish credibiliy for the writing.
Indymedia continues to tolerate this technique that even a first year journalism student would reject as being so clumsy as to be laughable. This all goes to reducing Indymedia's claim to be a credible news outlet and further reinforces its reputation as a home for those who views are unacceptable.

Of course comments pointing out the stupidity of the orginal post have either been hidden or removed.

ex IMC'er
 
Another example

https://publish.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/12/358484.html

This peace of rubbish pushes the idea that Poland has a "Neo-Nazi government ! It even states exactly that in the opening paragraph.

Is this hidden or removed, are comments concerning the absurdity and obvious innacuracy of the article given prominence ? No of course not; instead Indymedia allows it to remain and hides or removes comments listing the truth.

ex IMC'er
 
"Of course comments pointing out the stupidity of the orginal post have either been hidden or removed."

Hee hee - and they're all from you again.....

Thats the second thread in two days which you've spammed only to find all your comments hidden.

Lets hope that now you've got 2 sites to spam you'll get RSI in the near furure.
 
"We Distort, You Decide"

That is very rich coming from a site that continues to carry this lie:

"Logs are a bitch however, and 82-40-78-20.cable.ubr10.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk (82.40.78.20) has exposed Sam Wilson as the spammer. A formal complaint has been registered with his ISP."

Whatever you've done with your logs, that isn't my IP adress and I haven't been in Glasgow since the G8

But of course you stand by the story no? You'll vouch for its accuracy - because you think I am responsible for all the trolling on this site. But you're wrong and a liar - albeit a rather vain one - cos you're so clever, aren't you?

"Now, I am smarter than Sam Wilson (not a mean feat by any means)"

Indy Media Watch is full of lies and distortions, all coming from the small conservative ideological base of posters on this site.

Once people have seen the bias (love cops, love Israel, love America) for themselves, they will quickly realise that you have nothing valid to add to the Indymedia debate.

How clevert of you to sink all that energy into a useless site.

well its not totally useless though, its a wnderful playground for the GB indynmedia/Raul?IMC monitoring team/ex IMCer troll.
 
It seems they just can't stop it !

This post concerns the arrest of some European and US nationals who were maybe involved in terrorist activity.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/12/358506.html


What's the logical conclusion to draw from this;

European or US Muslims who are sympathetic to Al Quida so went to the Middle East ?

These men are of Middle Eastern heritage and so were drawn into the murky world of Islamic fundamentalism ?

They are converts to the cause and so with the fervour of converts tried to get involved ?

No of course not, our intrepid Indymedia journalist has seen the 'truth', he has decided they are all CIA operatives running false flag operations !!! No evidence, no references, no sources just prejudice and bias.

Honestly this stuff used to send me up the wall when I was involved with the site and it still has not stopped. Any credibility goes right out the window as long as nonsense like this is treated as though it were serious journalism.

ex IMC'er
 
Here's another cracker.
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/12/358504.html
In this post the writer concludes that the dispute between Hamas and Fatah which has led to widespead bloodshed in the Palestinian areas is all the fault of .... yes you guessed it ... Israel.

He goes on to say how he has discovered that a plot (of course) has been planned by those well known commited allies Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt and ISRAEL !

If this is "be the news" God help journalism.

ex IMC'er
 
“Once people have seen the bias (love cops, love Israel, love America) for themselves, they will quickly realise that you have nothing valid to add to the Indymedia debate.”

Hardy Har! That truly made my day. Because, you know, Indymedia adds so much to the debate as it is! You crack me up kid, please stick around as long as you like as long as you tell great jokes like that.
 
Aah go on Roland - tell us how you don't love cops. Israel or America.

It'll be fun
 
I hadn't realized that hating America was a prerequisite for participation in Indymedia. Please show me where it says that in the Principles of Unity.
 
“Aah go on Roland - tell us how you don't love cops. Israel or America.”

Well, I do generally like all of those things yes. But I was not aware that hating all three were important prerequisites to being part of Indymedia, as David pointed out.

I have no problem criticizing any of those things either; when it is justified. Many folks at Indymedia hates them regardless of what they do, that’s the difference kid.
 
I also was unaware that being banned from Indymedia was a prerequisite for posting here.

I guess that means I am not allowed here then?
 
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