Friday, December 08, 2006

 

Indy Media Watch Spammed

Further to an earlier post, a Tribute to Progressives comes a real tribute to progressives, in the form of the person who goes by the name 'Sam Wilson'.

Regular readers will be familiar with his comments, which whilst irrational, confused and frequently deluded, were generally civil.

Until now. This person has evidently decided he couldn't make his point rationally (an acute observation) and has decided instead to wallpaper this site with offensive comments.

Logs are a bitch however, and 82-40-78-20.cable.ubr10.uddi.blueyonder.co.uk (82.40.78.20) has exposed Sam Wilson as the spammer. A formal complaint has been registered with his ISP.

The bulk of the comments are along the lines of "come on, ban me".

Now, I am smarter than Sam Wilson (not a mean feat by any means) and get the impression whether by covering this site in crap or being banned, he is actually trying to prove a point.

Unfortunately, he has already proved one quite nicely. Yes, "Sam", you are pathetic. We get it.

If this persists, I will have to take the responsible step of closing comments. This is of course unfair on the intelligent among us, however I will have no choice but to act responsibly. There's a point to be made there as well, Sam. See if you can work out what it is.

Pathetic.

Comments:
I saw you just turn on comment moderation, and allow only folks who use a name to post, and not anonymously. Obviously one stupid idiot can make quite a stink, but I think that can easily be remedied by filtering out all the spam before anything even gets to be viewed.

I assume this individual will say this is some form of repression and censorship, but most folks will know otherwise.
 
I saw you just turn on comment moderation

As there's no moderation at present, I assume that was a typo for "I say"?
 
I suspect what drove 'Sam Wilson' over the edge was my reference to him as a "regal anonymouse".
 
Sorry, typo. I meant "I say".
 
Meanwhile, back on the never-ever-in-the-slightest-antisemitic UK Indymedia:

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/12/357876.html
 
>If this persists, I will have to take the responsible step of closing comments.

We did. So far, it seems to be working just fine. As I have always said, Indymedia either wishes to be a credible news organization or it doesn't. Without diligent, responsible editing, it can never be credible.
 
As I have always said

And just *who* are you, by the way? Are we supposed to simply know?

:)
 
here is the real indy

http://real-indymedia.livejournal.com/
 
Are we supposed to simply know?

Hmmmm. Whiny, monotonous, vacuous egomonster from SF-IMC. Who on earth could it possibly be?
 
Who on earth could it possibly be?

In the last couple of days it's gone by several names:

sf-imcista
so predictable
bunk logic
heard it before

Have mercy on my soul for not recognizing Greatness in our midst.

:)
 
Does the following ring a bell?

How dare you sully the honor of the Golabal Justice Movement!?! You vile, despicable scum.
 
"Global Justice Movement"
"vile despicable scum"

Yep, that's the Great One alright.

"Global Justice Movement" is simply the coolest slogan for adolescent fuckwits yet, because it signifies absolutely nothing, and especially because the Jews need not apply.

Makes you all wet and gooey like a member of the Shaun Cassidy Fan Club.
 
Hey, we haven't heard from Spam Wilson lately, have we. Funny how that works.
 
>Her Majesty's Secret Service

He also calls himself SmashTheLeft
 
He also calls himself....

But here, after admittedly not knowing what to go by, I've settled in with one name. Can you say the same? But of course not. Then your horrific idiocy concerning spamming about "forgeries" of pseudonyms would have to cease, right?

By the way, I'm not "Smashy", or any other name you can attempt to pull out of your rotted hindquarters. But you keep on trying to be that blind man in a darts tournament.
 
>I'm not "Smashy"

We believe you, oh yes we do.
 
"Hey, we haven't heard from Spam Wilson lately, have we. Funny how that works."

Not really. I was doing other stuff - it being the weekend and all that.

According to dnsstuff the IP given originates in Glasgow, which according to http://www.glasgowguide.co.uk/ is 414 miles away from where I am.

"Now, I am smarter than Sam Wilson (not a mean feat by any means)"

Yes, indeed. So smart that you've now placed me 400 miles away from where I am - on a completely ISP to boot.

Its all very well being judge, jury and executioner - but generally better when you get your facts right in advance. In this case you were way off beam.
 
" on a completely ISP to boot."

different ISP that should read.

So, now you have up a completely untrue post - crediting me with the actions of another.

Perhaps you'd like to remedy that?
 
Sam Wilson should spend his time preventing the descent of the British Indymedia webpage into the black hole of jew baiting that has claimed so many of them rather than spamming this blog.
 
What a joke IM has become, we all had such high hopes. Looks like this dick Sam Wilson is part of the problem
 
There have been four posts today to the UK Indymedia newssite concerning the Iranian backed Holocaust denial conference.

EVERYONE OF THEM HAS BEEN REMOVED.
 
In the context of the spamming, I think we can see this as a positive thing. Clearly the site is picking up more and more traffic, and I think most websites that pick up a decent amount of readers have to put in place some way to make sure ads and nonsense don’t get up. I advocate we put in comment moderation, once folks know that stupid shit will not be thrown up here, things will change. As long as we continue to allow for thought through dissenting opinion, the point of this project will remain.

The difference between this sites moderation and most Indymedia sites is that if something is well written and on topic, it will be posted.
 
Sybil's scorecard, so far:

sf-imcista
so predictable
bunk logic
heard it before
not real name
a bunch of complete fools
still waiting
see what I mean?
 
>scorecard, so far:

http://masl.to/?B25C616BA
 
Sybil's scorecard, so far:

sf-imcista
so predictable
bunk logic
heard it before
not real name
a bunch of complete fools
still waiting
see what I mean?
keeping track
 
posted by a bunch of complete fools

You mean *this* complete fool?

http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/14031_comment.php#14753

Since you asked . . .
by nessie Friday, Jun. 25, 2004 at 7:42 PM

(1.) My name isn’t nessie.

(2.) But that has nothing to do with whether I can prove it. I can’t prove it. So what? That, doesn’t mean it’s not true. Personally, I don’t care whether you believe me or not. If you don’t believe me, then you’re not who I’m talking to. I’m talking people smart enough to know that when something that is inconsistent with the bulk of my writing comes signed with my name, it’s a forgery. Anybody who’s not smart enough to grasp that, wouldn’t understand what I was saying, anyway.

(3.) Besides, who it was that wrote something is irrelevant. Only content counts. If it’s true, it doesn’t matter who says it, or why. The truth is the truth, period.

(snip)

Later, when you encounter something with my name on it, posted somewhere else on the internet, consider that it may be a forgery. If it is consistent with what you know I have actually written, then I wrote it. If it is not consistent, then it’s a forgery. If you can’t tell the difference, you’re too stupid to understand what I’m saying, anyway, so don’t waste time trying.


The idiot bastard's pseudonyms used so far at Indymedia Watch:

sf-imcista
so predictable
bunk logic
heard it before
not real name
a bunch of complete fools
still waiting
see what I mean?
keeping track
non racist
not surprised
still wondering
since you asked
 
>Sybil's scorecard, so far

http://onegoodmove.org/fallacy/style.htm

Style Over Substance

Definition:

The manner in which an argument (or arguer) is presented is taken to affect the likelihood that the conclusion is true.

Examples:

1. Nixon lost the presidential debate because of the sweat on his forehead.
2. Trudeau knows how to move a crowd. He must be right.
3. Why don't you take the advice of that nicely dressed young man?

Proof:

While it is true that the manner in which an argument is presented will affect whether people believe that its conclusion is true, nonetheless, the truth of the conclusion does not depend on the manner in which the argument is presented. In order to show that this fallacy is being committed, show that the style in this case does not affect the truth or falsity of the conclusion.
 
Is that the best you can do? Your idiocy is illustrated (and documented) in a way that can't possibly be denied, and it's in your own words, and all you can do to defend yourself is post more xeroxed nonsense from years past?

And anyway, someone at an indymedia said your writing skills were crap, and you threw the "bunk logic" stuff at them too. Been there, smelled that.

By using your "thinking" skills, are all psychiatrists supposed to ignore your friend Napoleon's bleatings of megalomania? How can you get any sleep in the next bunk if they don't medicate him?
 
>Your idiocy is illustrated (and documented) in a way that can't possibly be denied, and it's in your own words

See:

http://aia.mahost.org/sec_cointelpro.html

(snip)

. . . forged . . .

(snip)
 
For the record, you're saying that the post:

by nessie Friday, Jun. 25, 2004 at 7:42 PM

which at this very moment is still on ThunderBay's site is a forgery?

That will of course negate your idiotic posting here about "style over substance".

---------------------------

Pinocchio's scorecard, so far:

sf-imcista
so predictable
bunk logic
heard it before
not real name
a bunch of complete fools
still waiting
see what I mean?
keeping track
non racist
not surprised
still wondering
how typical
sad, very sad
 
>For the record, you're saying

For the record I'm saying that so much stuff has been falsely attributed to "nessie," that nothing should be trusted that is attributed to "nessie" if it appears anywhere except http://sf.indymedia.org or http://www.transbay.net/~nessie/.

See:

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/07/1698659.php

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2005/03/1712701_comment.php

http://pittsburgh.indymedia.org/news/2003/11/10972_comment.php#18185

Etc.

"Nessie" is not the only victim of identity theft on Indymedia.

For example:

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/01/1671143_comment.php#1672316

http://arizona.indymedia.org/news/2005/03/25338_comment.php#25340


>scorecard, so far:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?H216257C8
 
Answer the question with a YES or NO and nothing more:

Did *you* post this at ThunderBay?

by nessie Friday, Jun. 25, 2004 at 7:42 PM

---------------------------

Pinocchio's scorecard, so far:

sf-imcista
so predictable
bunk logic
heard it before
not real name
a bunch of complete fools
still waiting
see what I mean?
keeping track
non racist
not surprised
still wondering
how typical
sad, very sad
history buff
for the record
 
nessie's saying what he's always saying: "Look at me! look at me! look at me!"

That's how he earned his reputation as the most dysfunctional whack on Indymedia.
 
But I don't understand. He's been asked a simple YES or NO question, yet he now shuns the spotlight. What's up with that?

:)
 
>nessie's saying what he's always saying: "Look at me! look at me! look at me!"

That's "nessie" saying there is no point to signing the name "nessie" to anything not here or here because identity theft by people like Smashy has made the name meaningless anywhere "nessie" himself can't verify it, and weed out the forgeries.

One way that Smashy and his ilk have tried to discredit Indymedia is to flood it with disinformation.

See:

http://www.transbay.net/~nessie/Pages/smashy.confesses.html

Forgeries are the quintessential disinformation. But so are the hoary, racist canard we see so often, that Jews are somehow special, and should be treated differently than non Jews.

Note that we have yet to even once see gehrig, for example, say, "Jews are not special. They should be treated the same as non Jews."

Not once has he said this. None of them have. Why not? Obviously, they don't believe it. By definition, a racist is anyone who does not believe that all human beings are equal and should be treated the same, no matter what their ethnicity. That's why gehrig is not allowed to post on SF-IMC.
 
You "can't" verify that post? You don't know your own writing? Then how can you claim to know a "forgery" when you see it?

And what's with trying to change the subject by throwing gehrig in it?

YES or NO, did you post that at ThunderBay?
 
Not only have we yet to even once see gehrig, for example, say, "Jews are not special. They should be treated the same as non Jews," we have yet to see any Zionist say, "Jews hould be treated the same as non Jews."

Why not? Why wont they say that? Don't they believe in human equality?
 
Don't they believe in human equality?

How about asking that question of the Arabs?

But first things first, snippy little terrorist fellator.

YES or NO, did you post that at ThunderBay?

Still waiting....
 
>How about asking that question of the (sic) Arabs?

"The" Arabs!?! That's a racist for you. He seems to think that Arabs are all of one mind and all speak with the same voice. That's a concept as ridiculous as talking about "the" Jews. It's not only racist, it's just plain ignorant. Anybody who thinks that any ethnic group is all of one mind and speaks with one voice, simply hasn't been paying attention.

Hello! Wake up! Every human being is a separate individual. Each and every one of them deserves to be judged on the basis of their individual actions, and not on who their ancestors were. Anything less is racism.
 
>Anybody who thinks that any ethnic group is all of one mind and speaks with one voice, simply hasn't been paying attention.

See:

http://www.newsreview.com/sacramento/Content?oid=oid%3A254409

(snip)

“It used to be that if you had two Jews you had five opinions,” said Ellen Broms, a local Jewish Voice for Peace member. “Now millions of Jews are supposed to have one opinion.”

(snip)
 
My oh my, but isn't the little Brown Shirted terrorist fellator upset!

YES or NO, did you post that at ThunderBay?

Still waiting....
 
http://indymediawatch.blogspot.com/2006/12/we-distort-you-decide.html

Once people have seen the bias (love cops, love Israel, love America) for themselves....

by Spam Wilson 12/18/2006 07:00:18 AM

Wanna take on one of your own biased and racist terrorist fellating asswipes, nessie?

But first, YES or NO, did you post that at ThunderBay?
 
To the Watcher:

Perhaps after a couple of days you might have been aggravated at my being like a pit bull clamped down on nessie's leg, concerning his spam, his mental condition, his lies, etc, and since this is a thread about spam....

But as you and all can see, there was a method to my madness.

http://thunderbay.indymedia.org/news/2004/05/14031_comment.php#26832

"My name isn’t nessie."
by heard it before Friday, Dec. 22, 2006 at 11:10 AM

That's right. It isn't. This is spammed identity theft.

For a glimpse of how extensive the forgery of the name "nessie" is, Google "indymedia nessie forgery"


It's taken him two and a half years to claim his consistently horrific idiocy is a "forgery".

nessie is Exhibit A as to what's at the helm of the indymedia. He decided to wade in here during one of his periodic infantile spamming rages and I just wanted to shine the light on him, that's all.

His credibility is absolute zero. I rest my case. :)
 
>It's taken him two and a half years

Note that OHMSS (better known as "SmashTheLeft") doesn't deny it's a forgery.

For more about forgeries of the name "nessie," Google "nessie indymedia forgery"

For more about SmashTheLeft, click here:

http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/07/1698659.php
 
"Note that OHMSS (better known as "SmashTheLeft") doesn't deny it's a forgery."

Nope, because it's not a forgery. It's the real deal. I took nessie's idiotic lecture to heart that day, especially the part about recognizing his consistency, and believe me, he's consistently an Idiotarian Cum Laude™.

If it is consistent with what you know I have actually written, then I wrote it.

By the way, note that he's not even sure who "Smashy" really is, because of the quote marks. But he's got a reason to spam the globe with links back to his dead and irrelevant site, under the guise of "he's smarter than we are", so be aware of more of his horrific idiocy to come here because of his desperation.

You guys just don’t get it, do you? Every time you forge or slander "nessie" like this, he posts a disclaimer that includes a link to his site. Every link to SF Indy kicks its Google rating up a notch. Google “indymedia” and see how popular your inept attempts to defame him has made the place. You’re the best thing ever happened to "nessie". Before you, he was a nobody who nobody knew. Now he’s world famous and has more friends than ever. You guys did that for "nessie", and he never even thanked you.

What a sad and lonely and hate filled little man.
 
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