Saturday, July 16, 2005
Portland 9/11 Insanity
One of the defences employed by Indymedia advocates is that
"It's an unmoderated medium, we can't be held responsible for its content". I have previously argued against this Standard Indymedia Defence.
It has been used in some (rare) cases to suggest that Indymedia doesn't neccessarily endorse crackpot 9/11 conspiracy theories, and merely provides a medium for them.
Whilst it's not the first example, and I doubt it will be the last, Portland Indymedia waives any defence by linking to one such article from their front page, where it reports:
Giant Looney Nazi slime Robert Lindsay's blog (no links for the wicked) features a prominent link to Portland Indymedia. He has recently returned to my blog with a few more antisemitic and insane comments, the latest of which I have enjoyed deleting. Indymedia moderators take note: There are real losers in the world, you do not however need to provide them space to air their odious antisemitic filth.
"It's an unmoderated medium, we can't be held responsible for its content". I have previously argued against this Standard Indymedia Defence.
It has been used in some (rare) cases to suggest that Indymedia doesn't neccessarily endorse crackpot 9/11 conspiracy theories, and merely provides a medium for them.
Whilst it's not the first example, and I doubt it will be the last, Portland Indymedia waives any defence by linking to one such article from their front page, where it reports:
On July 22, 2005, Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) will host a full-day briefing, co-sponsored by Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-AZ), and other sponsors, for Members of Congress and their staffs in the Caucus RoomSpearheaded by a congresswoman, most of it concerns intelligence failures and policy matters. Fair enough, and I'm all for it. However Portland Indymedia puts the conpiracy spin on it and adds a "related article":
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One year after the release of the 9/11 Commission Final Report many questions about what transpired on September 11, 2001 and who should be held accountable still remain unanswered. Serious flaws and omissions in the Report have been addressed by whistleblowers and academics. Well known researchers and authors have put the events of that day into historical perspective, and have suggested possible alternatives to the recommendations of the 9/11 Commission regarding intelligence reform, domestic and foreign policy. The hard evidence has yet to be properly evaluated, and points to the need for full transparency, release of information, and continued probative investigations to have an effective, democratic response to the crisis that confronts all of us.
A second WTC maintenance worker has now come forward with eye-witness testimony that a massive explosion erupted in the lower levels of the north tower at approximately the same time the jetliner struck the tower's top floors.Cue lunacy:
I have learned otherwise. I realize now they are covering-up the real truth and that's why I want to release Jose's statement.And what more credible means to do this, than Portland Indymedia.
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"It's an unmoderated medium, we can't be held responsible for its content"
That's a baldface lie on the part of indymedia.
This was posted by "janky" (fairly regular "contributor" to indymedia San Francisco) on "The Bay Area Is Talking" website in respone to "Metric" pointing out their (indymedia) tacit support for attacking the police:
"Like I mentioned, we are here to facilitate community based and participatory media. This does not imply that we support everying we choose to edit."
To which "Metric" pointed out "Actually it does. By having editorial control it implies that everything that gets posted to the site *is* approved."
Which I agree with. If you have editorial control, you have then made a concious decision to support the posting.
One could always do an experiment and see just how much "control" they exert over postings.
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That's a baldface lie on the part of indymedia.
This was posted by "janky" (fairly regular "contributor" to indymedia San Francisco) on "The Bay Area Is Talking" website in respone to "Metric" pointing out their (indymedia) tacit support for attacking the police:
"Like I mentioned, we are here to facilitate community based and participatory media. This does not imply that we support everying we choose to edit."
To which "Metric" pointed out "Actually it does. By having editorial control it implies that everything that gets posted to the site *is* approved."
Which I agree with. If you have editorial control, you have then made a concious decision to support the posting.
One could always do an experiment and see just how much "control" they exert over postings.
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